Thursday, May 14, 2009

"Don't Tase Me, Bro"! - UPDATED



Ok, I know the Cops have tough jobs. And I know security workers at events have to keep public order. Tase me if I'm wrong, but are these things getting used way too often?
For instance, in our podunk little town, there was an idiot misbehaving outside a local bar. A Sheriff Deputy was called, things appeared to escalate, and the Deputy pulled his Taser and fired on the guy. The Taser failed to do anything, it didn't have an electrical charge at all. About that time, the head of the Sheriff Department arrived. They talked the guy down and simply drove him home. Now, all of this is a violation of protocol in every way. But you can get away with that in a small town like ours, and everything worked out. The point is, the guy never needed to get Tased at all.
-- Here's the rundown on Tasers from "The Straight Dope":

How dangerous are Tasers?
May 8, 2009
Dear Cecil:

How lethal are Tasers? I know there's talk about police being Taser-happy and torturing people with these devices, but has anyone been Tasered to death?
— Dugie C.,Calgary
Cecil replies:

News a little slow getting up to Calgary, Dugie? Lots of people have died after being Tasered — which is not to say they were necessarily Tasered to death. According to a widely publicized Amnesty International study last year, 334 people in the U.S. plus 25 more in Canada died between 2001 and 2008 after being zapped with a Taser by cops. The Taser's defenders say it beats shooting people and reduces the risk of stray bullets injuring bystanders. Wrong argument, says AI. The Taser isn't a replacement for guns but rather for billy clubs and such — for a lot of cops it's become the default method of subduing the unruly. OK, getting whupped upside the head in the old days wasn't a pleasant experience, but at least it didn’t involve 50,000 volts.

More here at THIS LINK, with emphasis on "Sudden In-custody Death Syndrome"

***And now this:
According to information released Saturday by the Florida Department of Corrections: During “Take Our Children to Work Day” events at three prison facilities, 43 children were hit with stun guns while others were exposed to tear gas.
“Three prison guards have been fired, two have resigned and 16 more employees — from corrections officers to a warden — will be disciplined due to the incidents that unfolded April 23, said DOC Secretary Walt McNeil,” reported The Miami Herald. “An investigation is ongoing.

LINK to above

11 comments:

Sean C. Ledig said...

Don't get me wrong. There are a lot of power-mad cops out there who use The Badge as a license to act like thugs.

But if I'm getting busted, I'd rather be tased than have my head split open with some cocobolo.

Dojo Rat said...

Ah, but civilians can use Tasers also, even criminals...

Sean C. Ledig said...

Nothing wrong with that, DR. I'm Mr. 2nd Amendment and I support the right of civilians to keep and bear arms.

As far as criminals using them, well the bad guys are going to use whatever they can get to help them. But blanket prohibitions don't do anything to keep weapons out of the bad guys' hands. All they do is keep weapons out of he hands of good people who could use them in self defense.

Dojo Rat said...

I agree.
When you outlaw Tasers, only Criminals and Cops will have Tasers...

Scott said...

I have a student in the USMC and he said for a while they were tasering each other for kicks... until they got caught by a commanding officer and put in the brig.
I guess it's pretty entertaining to watch your buddies wriggle on the ground! If we'd had one of these when I was in High School I'm sure we would have tested it on each other. I don't believe the AI hype.
Or the waterboarding hype for that matter, after all my g-friend makes me use a netty-pot.

Sean C. Ledig said...

Dude, there is a huge difference between making a conscious decision to used a neti-pot and being strapped to a table and having water poured on your face over and over again.

Dojo Rat said...

...Six times a day for 83 times after you have been kept awake for eleven days straight, kept in stress positions, doused with cold water and left in a concrete cell, possibly given drugs, exposed to blaring loud music...

Sean C. Ledig said...

And all so they can try to implicate Rumsfeld's buddy, Saddam Hussein in the 9/11 attacks.

As George Bush said on Larry King Live, "You know, one of the hardest parts of my job was to connect Iraq to the War on Terror."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhR04RkBFhs

Dojo Rat said...

Dude, we are so on the same (sane) track...

Scott said...

I'm just waiting for them to release the play list from Gitmo so I can see how many of my favorites are on there.

Dojo Rat said...

Hmmm...