Wednesday, March 26, 2008

Is This What's happening In "No Touch Knockouts"?


"Look into my eyes"

Back to the controversial subject of "No touch knockouts", My original post is linked HERE. As I describe in that post, I have personally seen the "no touch knockout" work in some interesting ways, and I have seen it fail miserably. Nearly everyone has seen the videos of the technique failing against skeptics or hardened athletes.
There is however something going on, and I believe it is Hypnosis. Look at this example of Hypnosis used in a robbery:

Now, every time I have witnessed a "no touch knockout", there has been intense eye contact between the instructor and the subject. Here is the background of the above video:
'Look into my eyes': Supermarket robber who hypnotises checkout girls to get the cash is hunted by Italian police
Last updated at 11:19am on 21st March 2008
Italian police have issued video footage of a man who has been hypnotizing supermarket checkout staff and getting them to hand over the cash.
In every case, according to reports, the last thing staff remember is a man leaning over and saying 'Look into my eyes' before suddenly finding the till is empty. In the latest incident captured on video footage the man walked into a bank in Ancona in northern Italy.
He waited until he got to a female bank clerk and, according to the video footage, appears to hypnotise her into handing over more than £600.
He then calmly walked out.
The cashier who was shown the video footage reportedly has no memory of the incident. She only realised what had happened when she saw the money missing.
Checks of CCTV cameras in the bank showed her being hypnotised by the man.
Italian police are now looking for the suspect - who bears an uncanny resemblance to Saddam Hussein - who they believe is either of Indian or North African.
From dailymail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=541234&in_page_id=1811
(D.R.)-- So there are legendary stories of warriors in combat, when one catches the other's gaze, causing him to falter and loose the battle. In a sense, capturing the opponent's "spirit". We are even tought in Karate sparring to avoid falling for eye fakes which throw your rythym off or confuse you. Even a loud Ki-ai can have an impact psychologically. I continue to believe that there is SOMETHING going on here. Take a look at my previous post ,and also HERE for more ideas...

20 comments:

Sa Bum Nim Pieschala said...

OFF TOPIC:
Oh sorry China! We thought those MIRV's were batteries. OOPS! Our bad! But Look on the bright side at least they lacked the "physics packages" :)

Darn now how did the media get that one? Oh "Total Information Warfare" .. Things that make you go hmmm.

Dojo Rat said...

Ha.ha.ha...
I thought the same thing, Those missile components were no accident...

Hand2Hand said...

Yes, I definitely think suggestion is at the heart of those no-touch knockouts. I also think it plays a role in so many other feats of chi.

A lot of what's in martial arts is just good psychology. I also like your comment about loud kiais.

I know police are trained in using their voices as a weapon. They know that with the right tone combined with other factors, such as eye contact and body language, they can have an effect on a suspect and take a lot of the fight right out of them.

I personally know about the value of a loud kiai from my old Tang Soo Do instructor, Phil Suffredini. He also had training as an opera singer. When he yelled, it just seemed to boom and bounce around the room.

Sa Bum Nim Pieschala said...

I'd say a freakin' MIRV is a "no touch" KO.

DR, when you coming to Chicago so I can make you mind melt with what's not in the DVD?

"Oh, China .. still wanna play" replies Dr Evil (Cheney)

Though I must say in a fight with Cheney guard your b***s!

(Told ya I have good friends a.k.a 'sources')

Rick Fryer said...

Nice Post on a very controversial subject.

While I'm certain that No-Touch practicioneers do not intentionally attempt to hypnotize their subjects, there may be something to the environment, the expectation of a knockout, and even the confidence of the practicioneer that somehow 'suggests' to the subject that he or she will be 'knocked out'.

I think it's something definitely worth investigating.

Respectfully,

Rick

Dojo Rat said...

Rick,
I think you are on the right track. I was thinking that the subjects are expecting to go out. The instructor could just as well have asked the subject to crow like a rooster or something. I have never had it performed on me so I don't know what would happen. I do definately believe there is something going on, rather than just plain voluntarism.

Hand2Hand said...

By the way, that spiral graphic is something. I suddenly have the urge to empty my bank account and send Dojo Rat all my money.

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